Since you incessantly bring up NM at every opportunity and seem to be an expert on patent law, I think it would only be fair if you divulged your present and past relationship with NW along with your qualifications as a patent attorney.
Understandably, you have a vested interest in Scanbuy. I am nothing more than a mere investor in NeoMedia … I am in no way a patent attorney. And for you to think I am is laughable at best.
I am glad to hear that I annoy you. I must take after your wife.
First I would like to state, that a statement I made challenging Streetstylz comments was removed and deemed a personal attack, for merely pointing out his inconsistency in a statement he posted here.
However this guy has been allowed to attack CEO’s of companies, talk about other posters wifes etc., and the comments remain.
As for the patent issues, he and so many others for years claimed the Neomedia patents were rock solid, and yet what is going on today. The USPTO is re-examining one of those rock solid patents.
They go around making these claims on all the blogs, yet none of them are qualified patent attorneys, or have any background in patent law.
Neomedia also according to them had 2D barcodes locked up in their patents, yet when someone(me) pointed out that all Neomedia had locked up was a specific indirect process, their tune changed quickly to how the direct process not covered would never amount to anything, yet its emerging daily as we speak.
And to date, not a one of them posters has put together a list of what patents Neom supposedly owns, and in what countries they are valid, as I requested they do 2 years ago if they were going to keep talking about who owns what patents in this space.
This is a very big issue when a lot of the developements in this technology is occurring outside the countries Neomedia’s patents have been filed.
Bena, please apply the same standards to all your posters, and if I can not refute a posters actual statements made, without that being considered a personal attack, this this very same poster shouldn’t be allowed to make comments questioning CEO’s manhood, or other posters wifes habits etc.
I don’t have any standards - if someone complains I remove it - no complaint - it stays. this is a blog and I don’t like to censor at all. I don’t play favourites either.
My apologies. When I saw the following statement in my edited post, I assumed it was due to a blog policy, since the statement came from you.
“”SORRY GUYS no personal attacks. This comment has been edited by Bena”"
I do understand why the individual wanted the statements of facts removed however, although I do not agree that questioning statements made by someone in a blog, constitutes a personal attack, when their own statements in another forum are used to verify what the facts really are.
However mentioning their family members, when you do not know them or their family members, is pretty cut and dry, as is telling the CEO of a company who has more stature then you, that he is not a man. Oh well what do I know?
Thank you for answering my question, you are an investor and considering your position in NM … you get the point.
I never claimed you were a patent attorney, or someone who even remotely understood how the modern patent system works. If you were, you would know that Microsoft (via the aquisition of TellMe, who are ex-Netscape guys strangely enough) has a slew of Voice Search patents and a stellar legal team to back them.
The modern patent system is merely a game of large companies building up patent portfolios to defend each other against frivolous infringement lawsuits (that rarely are enforced and almost never come to trial), propagated by said patent attorneys.
There have been some great strides in the last 12 months around the space of business process patents, in trying to clean up this mess.
FWIW, I am not a patent attorney though I am loathe to say I have several patents under review at the moment.
Back to you Mr. Stylz, quit pretending and prove some sort of a point now an then. Next time post a link to the patent in question, or better yet get a patent attorney to comment on it.
Here I was minding my own business making a general comment about NeoMedia’s voice recognition search patent, and I get personally attacked by trippytom, and brewskih sticks his nose into the conversation.
If you’re going to personally attack me, then expect to get something back in return.
And if you don’t like what I have to say, mind your damn business and keep your comments to yourself.
You were right on for questioning his patent litigation skills. he has stated numerous times here and all over the web he expected great news soon from the USPTO on the re-exam.
The news is out and available for anyone to read on the USPTO web site. All 95 claims in Neomedias patent have been rejected as I suggested may be the case many times now.
This is a non final action so neomedia has the right to challenge this, but their chances of wining are slim to nil at this point.
There is an 87 page down loadable file under the re-exam file wrapper which explains the rejections and why.
Brewskih - as you know i know about SEO - and the link is broken - fixing broken links from comments is a killer - please check and email me and I will put it back here.
Thats your problem, you think you know it all, and over and over after so much rhetoric you have been wrong. But no one is supposed to challenge you, in your little world.
Well your assumptions and your rhetoric on the NEOM patents was dead wrong as is illustrated above, and thus proof why more people like myself need to be challenging your pump NEOMEDIA rhetoric.
LOL….Streetstylz I think thats what I said three responses up from yours.
Now I see you are agreeing with someone in another forum, who states his patent friend told him this was not a rejection at all. LOL. The USPTO states in claim after claim, that they are REJECTED due to prior art.
Whether its a final rejection, or a non final rejection, its still a rejection, but the spin mi esters are busy trying to make it look like something else.
This individual you are agreeing with even says he just learned they are not in the apppeal stage yet…..LOL.
Of course they aren’t. Neomedia gets to respond to the non final rejection, and if their response is not satisfactory for the USPTO to reverse their decision, then a final rejection action comes. At that point Neomedia gets the opportunity to appeal.
But with all 95 claims rejected at this time, that does not look promising.
I was looking back on statements you and I made in this forum in late May, and my what a surprise how your assumptions were so far off base, and mine at the time were dead on.
But you are right, its not over yet, but Neomedias court battle with Scanbuy, will have to be amended to exclude this patent until there is a final decision. If they intend to go forward with the legal case before this process plays itself out.
That is very significant going forward for Neomedia. I think I also stated Neomedia had an idea what was coming, and thats why they hired a CEO with a focus on selling the company. They still have time to sell before a final decision comes around and the appeal is exhausted next year some time in my opinion.
By the way will this critical news in the bar code space make it onto your blog….hehehe
Apparently the USPTO doesnt allow direct link to the content.
In the link above you click on PUBLIC PAIR. Then you type in the two security codes. Then you type in the re-exam application number 90008779 and click SEARCH.
When it brings up the file you click on the file wrapper TAB and it will list several files dated July 3. One of them is the 87 page downloadable PDF file explaining their NON FINAL REJECTION of all 95 claims.
NeoMedia can, and should, move forward in their patent infringement suit against Scanbuy on the 3 other valid and subsisting patents owned by NeoMedia.
IMO, this isn’t critical news and nothing is final. Therefore I see no reason at all to comment about it on my blog
If the opposite result occured from the USPTO (regards NEOM) occured today you would never hear the end of it. Our patents are locked tigh, we own the bridge, yada yada yada.
Yet when they are basically defeated sans a miracle 3 pointer, its just procedure and doesn’t mean anything.
At the bottom are a couple of your comments made just in the past couple months regarding Neomedias patents. And the very system you claimed in one comment that Neomedia owned the patents to is exactly what the USPTO today said was non patentable. The unique identifier you pointed to the USPTO said was included in Wellnors 1993 patent, referenced as a pointer. They went on to describe it in details and stated someone in the art would of known this pointer or identifier pertains to bar codes which identify a company by their first 6 digits and the product by others. It goes on with more elaborate details but for the layman that explains it pretty good.
So even thogh this is not the final decision, it is critical to Neomedia and you thought so when you made these comments around the web and on this site…..LOL
“”"”It’s gonna be great when NeoMedia’s patent is upheld by the USPTO and Scanbuy has to license NeoMedia’s IP.
Indirect encoding (patented by NeoMedia) is the process of linking the target information to an index (364528 for example) and putting that unique identifier into a 1D UPC/EAN or 2D barcode. The code reader on the mobile phone reads the barcode and sends the code data over the Internet to a central resolution server that will tell the mobile phone what action is associated with the index, i.e. access a URL, download media, initiate a phone call, ect.”"”"”
It’s gonna be great when NeoMedia’s patent is upheld by the USPTO and Scanbuy has to license NeoMedia’s IP.
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In a related case:
Visto, a closely held maker of software for wireless email, alleges that RIM infringed on five of Visto’s wireless-synchronization patents. It’s seeking damages for past infringement and a permanent injunction on all infringing RIM products.
In April, RIM requested a stay pending the outcome of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office’s reexamination of all five disputed patents. Two of the patents have been rejected in final-office actions by the PTO, but the PTO has since reconsidered one of those rejections and validated one of those patents. Visto is waiting to hear if the PTO will reconsider the other final rejection. It’s also awaiting final rulings on the other three patents.
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NeoMedia can, and should, move forward in their patent infringement suit against Scanbuy on the 3 other valid and subsisting patents owned by NeoMedia.
Yeah, I have seen the latest spin on how if it happened in the RIM case it can happen for Neomedia too.
Problem is thats just spin and speculation of what could happen. I rather deal in the reality of what HAS just happened. At this point and time all we know as fact is all 95 claims in their patent were covered under prior art based on the USPTO’s opinion as WE KNOW IT.
All this what if this happens or that happens, has gone on so long in Neomedia land by the investors, then they come here complaining how so many other suckers(I mean investors) lots tons of money, myself included.
How about you stick to the reality of what has gone on with neomedia, and leave the rogue case of RIM out of it, since there is no evidence the same will occur here. Yes I know it sounds good and might suck in a couple more investors along the way, but its not fact.
As to what Neomedia can and should do with Scanbuy, one thing is for certain. They will have to amend their complaint. The other thing I am almost certain of is that their counsel is probably the one told them to stay the court case, and i expect that counsel is better equipped to judge then you or I.
I do know the procedures in this patent are core to all the other patents. I also know some foreign patents were issued based on the legitimacy of this patent. So in the end if this patent remains rejected in its entirety, the fallout will be huge with the other patents as well.
Those are the facts and i am sticking to them, rather then high hope speculation that got so many investors in hot water financially.
There is no spin at all. We shareholders are merely looking for real life industry examples that can relate to NeoMedia’s patent situation.
Two of Visto’s patents had been rejected in final-office actions by the USPTO, but the USPTO has since reconsidered one of those rejections and revalidated one of those patents. Visto is waiting to hear if the PTO will reconsider the other final rejection. It’s also awaiting final rulings on the other three patents.
The same thing could just as easily happen with NeoMedia’s patent if it is rejected in final-office actions by the USPTO.
However, NeoMedia’s patent is not even at that stage yet. The USPTO set aside claims 1-95 by marking them as rejected for reasons cited in the 78 page USPTO attachment document. NeoMedia now has 60 days to formalize their response.
According to a very reliable source: “The Welner patent was not missed in the original filing as it is cited in the references. The interpretation by the patent examiner may differ from the original examiner, thus the potential for change in claim status. IMHO, the patents will stand up.”
He also noted that: “Tony was the patent attorney during the licensing to Symbol, Cross (pen), and Digital Convergence and also involved with the filings and continuations that were put in place in the late ’90s/2000 - 2001 timeframe. He knows this portfolio inside and out and is a very good patent attorney.”
You are wrong in your statement: “The procedures (claims) in this patent are core to all the other patents.”
NeoMedia acquired 4 patents from Barpoint, which have no ties to the core Hudetz and Durst patents.
You keep sticking to “your” facts and I will gladly remain hopeful and stick to mine.
I think you do not get it. The bar point patents you speak of are of limited scope.
This patent which at this time IS rejected in its entirety, dates to 1995, when the concept was supposedly dreamed about by the Neomedia founders. It covers the basic process and the other patents acquired merely complimented this process or expanded it.
Yes those acquired patents have some uniqueness, but they certainly do not make up the bridge that you and others claimed Neomedia owned by this patent under re-exam. At best those patents merely give them a foot path on that bridge.
As to the spin, yeah right Streetstylz. Call it what you want to call it, but as even you suggest, its speculation of what could happen in a best case scenario. And this reliable source that keeps getting mentioned wouldnt be the same one who said the EFF had no case and the re-exam would be denied would it? Is this reliable source even a patent attorney?
News flash. Even patent attorneys skilled in the art, who disagree on a patent issue never know what way its going to go. Both legally or in a case like this re-exam. So some source you are relying on has no more clue then you or I at this point, and therefore any speculation is pure spin, as has occurred since yesterday on the financial message board for this stock, where your group has attempted damage control, recieved talking points that you have since used here etc.
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NeoMedia has a patent that covers search using voice recognition.
Comment made on July 7th, 2008 at 11:00 pmMr. Stylz,
Since you incessantly bring up NM at every opportunity and seem to be an expert on patent law, I think it would only be fair if you divulged your present and past relationship with NW along with your qualifications as a patent attorney.
Either that, or go annoy people somewhere else.
Peace,
Comment made on July 7th, 2008 at 11:43 pmTom
What amazes me is how US tech ever moves forward - the patent system is just crazy and totally unworkable. I should patent walking to work!!.
Comment made on July 8th, 2008 at 12:49 amMr. Tom Emmons,
Understandably, you have a vested interest in Scanbuy. I am nothing more than a mere investor in NeoMedia … I am in no way a patent attorney. And for you to think I am is laughable at best.
I am glad to hear that I annoy you. I must take after your wife.
Hugs & kisses,
Comment made on July 8th, 2008 at 3:40 amMr. Stylz
First I would like to state, that a statement I made challenging Streetstylz comments was removed and deemed a personal attack, for merely pointing out his inconsistency in a statement he posted here.
However this guy has been allowed to attack CEO’s of companies, talk about other posters wifes etc., and the comments remain.
As for the patent issues, he and so many others for years claimed the Neomedia patents were rock solid, and yet what is going on today. The USPTO is re-examining one of those rock solid patents.
They go around making these claims on all the blogs, yet none of them are qualified patent attorneys, or have any background in patent law.
Neomedia also according to them had 2D barcodes locked up in their patents, yet when someone(me) pointed out that all Neomedia had locked up was a specific indirect process, their tune changed quickly to how the direct process not covered would never amount to anything, yet its emerging daily as we speak.
And to date, not a one of them posters has put together a list of what patents Neom supposedly owns, and in what countries they are valid, as I requested they do 2 years ago if they were going to keep talking about who owns what patents in this space.
This is a very big issue when a lot of the developements in this technology is occurring outside the countries Neomedia’s patents have been filed.
Bena, please apply the same standards to all your posters, and if I can not refute a posters actual statements made, without that being considered a personal attack, this this very same poster shouldn’t be allowed to make comments questioning CEO’s manhood, or other posters wifes habits etc.
Comment made on July 8th, 2008 at 3:31 pmI don’t have any standards - if someone complains I remove it - no complaint - it stays. this is a blog and I don’t like to censor at all. I don’t play favourites either.
Comment made on July 8th, 2008 at 3:40 pmMy apologies. When I saw the following statement in my edited post, I assumed it was due to a blog policy, since the statement came from you.
“”SORRY GUYS no personal attacks. This comment has been edited by Bena”"
I do understand why the individual wanted the statements of facts removed however, although I do not agree that questioning statements made by someone in a blog, constitutes a personal attack, when their own statements in another forum are used to verify what the facts really are.
However mentioning their family members, when you do not know them or their family members, is pretty cut and dry, as is telling the CEO of a company who has more stature then you, that he is not a man. Oh well what do I know?
Comment made on July 8th, 2008 at 5:28 pmMr. Stylz,
Thank you for answering my question, you are an investor and considering your position in NM … you get the point.
I never claimed you were a patent attorney, or someone who even remotely understood how the modern patent system works. If you were, you would know that Microsoft (via the aquisition of TellMe, who are ex-Netscape guys strangely enough) has a slew of Voice Search patents and a stellar legal team to back them.
The modern patent system is merely a game of large companies building up patent portfolios to defend each other against frivolous infringement lawsuits (that rarely are enforced and almost never come to trial), propagated by said patent attorneys.
There have been some great strides in the last 12 months around the space of business process patents, in trying to clean up this mess.
http://www.economist.com/science/tq/displaystory.cfm?story_id=9719020
http://www.economist.com/business/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11332744
FWIW, I am not a patent attorney though I am loathe to say I have several patents under review at the moment.
Back to you Mr. Stylz, quit pretending and prove some sort of a point now an then. Next time post a link to the patent in question, or better yet get a patent attorney to comment on it.
Peace,
Comment made on July 8th, 2008 at 7:27 pmTom
Here I was minding my own business making a general comment about NeoMedia’s voice recognition search patent, and I get personally attacked by trippytom, and brewskih sticks his nose into the conversation.
If you’re going to personally attack me, then expect to get something back in return.
And if you don’t like what I have to say, mind your damn business and keep your comments to yourself.
Comment made on July 8th, 2008 at 8:27 pmTrippytom,
You were right on for questioning his patent litigation skills. he has stated numerous times here and all over the web he expected great news soon from the USPTO on the re-exam.
The news is out and available for anyone to read on the USPTO web site. All 95 claims in Neomedias patent have been rejected as I suggested may be the case many times now.
This is a non final action so neomedia has the right to challenge this, but their chances of wining are slim to nil at this point.
There is an 87 page down loadable file under the re-exam file wrapper which explains the rejections and why.
Comment made on July 8th, 2008 at 9:06 pmsorry forgot the link to the decision
http://portal.uspto.gov/external/portal/
Brewskih - as you know i know about SEO - and the link is broken - fixing broken links from comments is a killer - please check and email me and I will put it back here.
Comment made on July 8th, 2008 at 9:08 pmStreetstylz,
Thats your problem, you think you know it all, and over and over after so much rhetoric you have been wrong. But no one is supposed to challenge you, in your little world.
Well your assumptions and your rhetoric on the NEOM patents was dead wrong as is illustrated above, and thus proof why more people like myself need to be challenging your pump NEOMEDIA rhetoric.
Read the USPTO ruling out today.
Comment made on July 8th, 2008 at 9:12 pmThe reexamination process is not final. NeoMedia has the right to appeal.
Comment made on July 8th, 2008 at 10:20 pmLOL….Streetstylz I think thats what I said three responses up from yours.
Now I see you are agreeing with someone in another forum, who states his patent friend told him this was not a rejection at all. LOL. The USPTO states in claim after claim, that they are REJECTED due to prior art.
Whether its a final rejection, or a non final rejection, its still a rejection, but the spin mi esters are busy trying to make it look like something else.
This individual you are agreeing with even says he just learned they are not in the apppeal stage yet…..LOL.
Of course they aren’t. Neomedia gets to respond to the non final rejection, and if their response is not satisfactory for the USPTO to reverse their decision, then a final rejection action comes. At that point Neomedia gets the opportunity to appeal.
But with all 95 claims rejected at this time, that does not look promising.
I was looking back on statements you and I made in this forum in late May, and my what a surprise how your assumptions were so far off base, and mine at the time were dead on.
But you are right, its not over yet, but Neomedias court battle with Scanbuy, will have to be amended to exclude this patent until there is a final decision. If they intend to go forward with the legal case before this process plays itself out.
That is very significant going forward for Neomedia. I think I also stated Neomedia had an idea what was coming, and thats why they hired a CEO with a focus on selling the company. They still have time to sell before a final decision comes around and the appeal is exhausted next year some time in my opinion.
By the way will this critical news in the bar code space make it onto your blog….hehehe
Comment made on July 8th, 2008 at 11:25 pmBena,
Apparently the USPTO doesnt allow direct link to the content.
In the link above you click on PUBLIC PAIR. Then you type in the two security codes. Then you type in the re-exam application number 90008779 and click SEARCH.
When it brings up the file you click on the file wrapper TAB and it will list several files dated July 3. One of them is the 87 page downloadable PDF file explaining their NON FINAL REJECTION of all 95 claims.
Hope this helps
Comment made on July 8th, 2008 at 11:35 pmNeoMedia can, and should, move forward in their patent infringement suit against Scanbuy on the 3 other valid and subsisting patents owned by NeoMedia.
IMO, this isn’t critical news and nothing is final. Therefore I see no reason at all to comment about it on my blog
Comment made on July 8th, 2008 at 11:41 pmThe spinmeisters are alive at Ihub.
If the opposite result occured from the USPTO (regards NEOM) occured today you would never hear the end of it. Our patents are locked tigh, we own the bridge, yada yada yada.
Yet when they are basically defeated sans a miracle 3 pointer, its just procedure and doesn’t mean anything.
Only a matter of time.
Comment made on July 9th, 2008 at 1:08 amAt the bottom are a couple of your comments made just in the past couple months regarding Neomedias patents. And the very system you claimed in one comment that Neomedia owned the patents to is exactly what the USPTO today said was non patentable. The unique identifier you pointed to the USPTO said was included in Wellnors 1993 patent, referenced as a pointer. They went on to describe it in details and stated someone in the art would of known this pointer or identifier pertains to bar codes which identify a company by their first 6 digits and the product by others. It goes on with more elaborate details but for the layman that explains it pretty good.
So even thogh this is not the final decision, it is critical to Neomedia and you thought so when you made these comments around the web and on this site…..LOL
“”"”It’s gonna be great when NeoMedia’s patent is upheld by the USPTO and Scanbuy has to license NeoMedia’s IP.
Indirect encoding (patented by NeoMedia) is the process of linking the target information to an index (364528 for example) and putting that unique identifier into a 1D UPC/EAN or 2D barcode. The code reader on the mobile phone reads the barcode and sends the code data over the Internet to a central resolution server that will tell the mobile phone what action is associated with the index, i.e. access a URL, download media, initiate a phone call, ect.”"”"”
So much for full disclosure on your blog huh?
Comment made on July 9th, 2008 at 1:34 amAnd I stand behind that comment:
It’s gonna be great when NeoMedia’s patent is upheld by the USPTO and Scanbuy has to license NeoMedia’s IP.
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In a related case:
Visto, a closely held maker of software for wireless email, alleges that RIM infringed on five of Visto’s wireless-synchronization patents. It’s seeking damages for past infringement and a permanent injunction on all infringing RIM products.
In April, RIM requested a stay pending the outcome of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office’s reexamination of all five disputed patents. Two of the patents have been rejected in final-office actions by the PTO, but the PTO has since reconsidered one of those rejections and validated one of those patents. Visto is waiting to hear if the PTO will reconsider the other final rejection. It’s also awaiting final rulings on the other three patents.
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NeoMedia can, and should, move forward in their patent infringement suit against Scanbuy on the 3 other valid and subsisting patents owned by NeoMedia.
Comment made on July 9th, 2008 at 2:07 amYeah, I have seen the latest spin on how if it happened in the RIM case it can happen for Neomedia too.
Problem is thats just spin and speculation of what could happen. I rather deal in the reality of what HAS just happened. At this point and time all we know as fact is all 95 claims in their patent were covered under prior art based on the USPTO’s opinion as WE KNOW IT.
All this what if this happens or that happens, has gone on so long in Neomedia land by the investors, then they come here complaining how so many other suckers(I mean investors) lots tons of money, myself included.
How about you stick to the reality of what has gone on with neomedia, and leave the rogue case of RIM out of it, since there is no evidence the same will occur here. Yes I know it sounds good and might suck in a couple more investors along the way, but its not fact.
As to what Neomedia can and should do with Scanbuy, one thing is for certain. They will have to amend their complaint. The other thing I am almost certain of is that their counsel is probably the one told them to stay the court case, and i expect that counsel is better equipped to judge then you or I.
I do know the procedures in this patent are core to all the other patents. I also know some foreign patents were issued based on the legitimacy of this patent. So in the end if this patent remains rejected in its entirety, the fallout will be huge with the other patents as well.
Those are the facts and i am sticking to them, rather then high hope speculation that got so many investors in hot water financially.
Comment made on July 9th, 2008 at 2:47 ambrewskih,
There is no spin at all. We shareholders are merely looking for real life industry examples that can relate to NeoMedia’s patent situation.
Two of Visto’s patents had been rejected in final-office actions by the USPTO, but the USPTO has since reconsidered one of those rejections and revalidated one of those patents. Visto is waiting to hear if the PTO will reconsider the other final rejection. It’s also awaiting final rulings on the other three patents.
The same thing could just as easily happen with NeoMedia’s patent if it is rejected in final-office actions by the USPTO.
However, NeoMedia’s patent is not even at that stage yet. The USPTO set aside claims 1-95 by marking them as rejected for reasons cited in the 78 page USPTO attachment document. NeoMedia now has 60 days to formalize their response.
According to a very reliable source: “The Welner patent was not missed in the original filing as it is cited in the references. The interpretation by the patent examiner may differ from the original examiner, thus the potential for change in claim status. IMHO, the patents will stand up.”
He also noted that: “Tony was the patent attorney during the licensing to Symbol, Cross (pen), and Digital Convergence and also involved with the filings and continuations that were put in place in the late ’90s/2000 - 2001 timeframe. He knows this portfolio inside and out and is a very good patent attorney.”
You are wrong in your statement: “The procedures (claims) in this patent are core to all the other patents.”
NeoMedia acquired 4 patents from Barpoint, which have no ties to the core Hudetz and Durst patents.
You keep sticking to “your” facts and I will gladly remain hopeful and stick to mine.
Cheers
Comment made on July 9th, 2008 at 10:18 pmStreetstylz,
I think you do not get it. The bar point patents you speak of are of limited scope.
This patent which at this time IS rejected in its entirety, dates to 1995, when the concept was supposedly dreamed about by the Neomedia founders. It covers the basic process and the other patents acquired merely complimented this process or expanded it.
Yes those acquired patents have some uniqueness, but they certainly do not make up the bridge that you and others claimed Neomedia owned by this patent under re-exam. At best those patents merely give them a foot path on that bridge.
As to the spin, yeah right Streetstylz. Call it what you want to call it, but as even you suggest, its speculation of what could happen in a best case scenario. And this reliable source that keeps getting mentioned wouldnt be the same one who said the EFF had no case and the re-exam would be denied would it? Is this reliable source even a patent attorney?
News flash. Even patent attorneys skilled in the art, who disagree on a patent issue never know what way its going to go. Both legally or in a case like this re-exam. So some source you are relying on has no more clue then you or I at this point, and therefore any speculation is pure spin, as has occurred since yesterday on the financial message board for this stock, where your group has attempted damage control, recieved talking points that you have since used here etc.
You ought to be a politician…..LOL
Comment made on July 10th, 2008 at 4:01 ambrewskih,
Then we’ll agree to disagree.
How about we wait and see what happens to NeoMedia’s patent once all the dust settles.
And for the record, I think you are really downplaying the true importance & future value of the Rothschild / Barpoint patents.
Here have a look:
http://tinyurl.com/5c8b6o
Comment made on July 10th, 2008 at 4:28 amhttp://tinyurl.com/5thmg9
http://tinyurl.com/5qezdm
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